The Elisa Lam Case: The Unsolved Mystery That Still Haunts the Internet

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Podcast Introduction

It was supposed to be a simple vacation. A solo trip to Los Angeles, a chance to explore, recharge, and share her experiences online. Elisa Lam checked into the Cecil Hotel, a place with a dark reputation—though she probably didn’t know just how dark.

Then, one night, something changed.

Surveillance footage captured her stepping into the hotel’s old, metal elevator. The doors slid open. She entered, pressed multiple buttons, and then… something strange happened.

She hesitated, peeking outside as if she was hiding from someone—or something. She waved her arms, moving in erratic, almost unnatural ways, as if she were speaking to someone unseen. The elevator never closed. The footage, eerie and unsettling, became an internet phenomenon.

And then, she was gone.

Days later, guests at the Cecil complained about the water—low pressure, strange color, odd taste. That’s when the maintenance crew checked the rooftop tanks.

That’s where they found her.

Elisa Lam, dead, floating inside one of the hotel’s massive water tanks.

No signs of struggle. No clear way she could have gotten there.

Accident? Murder? Paranormal? Theories flooded the internet.

And today, we’re diving into one of the most chilling mysteries of our time.

Was Elisa Lam a victim of her own mind, an unknown killer, or something even darker? And why does her story still haunt people to this day?

We’ll explore all of this, break down the mystery, and—since this is English Plus Podcast—expand your knowledge and your English skills along the way.

Danny:

Ben, I have to ask—have you ever seen the Elisa Lam elevator footage?

Ben:

Oh man, yeah. That video is haunting! It gives me chills every time I see it. It’s like she’s running from something, but… there’s no one there!

Danny:

Exactly! It’s one of those clips that sticks with you. And you know what’s even creepier? The more you look into it, the more unanswered questions you find.

Ben:

Right! I mean, how did she end up in that water tank? That thing was locked! No one saw her go up there. And the hotel? The Cecil Hotel isn’t exactly known for good vibes.

Danny:

That’s an understatement! The Cecil has a long history of disturbing events—serial killers, suicides, disappearances. It’s like the Hotel of Horrors!

Ben:

So was Elisa Lam just another tragic case, or was something more sinister at play? That’s the big question.

Danny:

And that’s exactly what we’re going to dig into today. We’re going to analyze the case, the theories, and the facts, while also learning some key English vocabulary, expressions, and storytelling elements.

Ben:

So whether you’re here for the mystery, to improve your English, or just to get major goosebumps, you’re in the right place!

Danny:

And coming up next—we take a deep dive into the last known moments of Elisa Lam, including that bizarre elevator footage.

Ben:

Don’t go anywhere. We’ll be right back.

The Elisa Lam Case – Part 1: The Last Known Moments

There’s something deeply unsettling about the way the human mind reacts to an unsolved mystery. It lingers. It gnaws at the edges of logic, making you question what you know about the world. And few cases have done this quite like the story of Elisa Lam.

By all accounts, Elisa was an ordinary 21-year-old student from Vancouver, Canada. She had a love for books, an active presence on Tumblr, and a desire to explore the world. She wanted to see new places, meet new people, and, like most young travelers, document her journey along the way. Her blog was filled with musings on life, literature, and personal struggles. And it was no secret—she had been battling bipolar disorder and depression. But she was managing. She had dreams. Plans.

On January 26, 2013, she arrived in Los Angeles, checking into the infamous Cecil Hotel—a place that, had she known its history, might have made her reconsider. Because this wasn’t just any hotel. This was the same building where serial killers had once roamed, where countless suicides had occurred, where darkness seemed to cling to the walls like a permanent stain.

At first, everything seemed normal. Elisa was assigned a shared hostel-style room, but within a few days, her roommates complained about her behavior. She was moved to a private room. No one knew exactly what had happened in those first few days, but something was off.

Then came February 1st—the last day anyone saw her alive.

Elisa had been exploring LA, visiting bookstores, coffee shops, and famous tourist spots. But at some point, something changed. That night, the now-infamous elevator footage was recorded.

If you’ve seen the video, you know how unsettling it is. If you haven’t, imagine this: a young woman enters the elevator and presses several buttons, but the doors refuse to close. She hesitates. Peers outside. Steps back in. Steps out again. She looks like she’s hiding—ducking, pressing against the walls, peering out into the hallway as if someone, or something, is following her.

She makes strange gestures with her hands, almost as if she’s communicating with someone we can’t see. Then she steps out of the elevator entirely and vanishes from view. The doors remain open for an eerily long time before finally closing. And that was it.

That was the last anyone saw of Elisa Lam.

For days, her disappearance baffled everyone. Her family was desperate for answers. Police searched the hotel, even bringing in sniffer dogs. But there was no sign of her. Not in the lobby. Not in the hallways. Not in her room. It was as if she had simply vanished into thin air.

And then, almost three weeks later, hotel guests started complaining about the water. It had a strange color, a weird taste. The pressure was weak.

So, a maintenance worker climbed to the rooftop, where four giant water tanks provided the hotel’s plumbing system. He opened one of the tanks—and there, floating lifelessly in the water, was Elisa Lam.

The question that haunted everyone wasn’t just how she had died, but how she had even gotten there in the first place.

The rooftop was locked. The water tanks were difficult to access, requiring a heavy lid that seemed impossible for a single person to open alone. There were no security camera recordings of her heading up. And yet, there she was.

Theories exploded across the internet. Some said she had been murdered and placed there. Others believed she was having a severe manic episode and tragically found herself in the tank by accident. And, of course, some whispered about supernatural forces at play.

The case of Elisa Lam had officially crossed the line from unexplained to legendary.

But was this really an unsolvable mystery? Or was there a logical explanation hidden beneath all the speculation?

In the next part of our episode, we’re going to dive into the investigation itself, the strange inconsistencies in the reports, and the theories that still leave people questioning what really happened.

Don’t go anywhere. We’ll be right back.

The Elisa Lam Case – Part 2: The Investigation & Theories

When the news broke that Elisa Lam had been found in the hotel’s water tank, the internet did what the internet does best—it turned into a full-blown detective agency. Theories flooded forums, YouTube videos dissected every frame of the elevator footage, and suddenly, everyone was convinced they had the missing piece of the puzzle.

But before we dive into speculation, let’s talk about what we do know.

The official investigation started with the Los Angeles Police Department, who had already been searching for Elisa long before she was found. The problem? There had been no solid leads. She hadn’t checked out of the hotel. No witnesses reported seeing anything suspicious. And when they searched the building—including the rooftop—they found nothing.

Which brings us to the biggest mystery of all: how did she get into that water tank?

The rooftop wasn’t an area guests could easily access. There were security alarms, locked doors, and—most importantly—those water tanks weren’t exactly something you could just climb into on a whim. These tanks were massive, standing on concrete blocks, with heavy lids that weren’t designed to be easily moved. Maintenance workers had to use ladders to check them.

And yet, there she was.

The autopsy report, when it finally came out, only deepened the mystery. There were no drugs or alcohol in her system—at least, nothing in significant amounts. No signs of physical trauma. No evidence of a struggle. The cause of death? Accidental drowning.

Accidental?

How do you accidentally climb up a secured rooftop, lift a heavy lid, and drown in a water tank?

This is where the theories start multiplying like conspiracy theorists at a UFO convention.

One of the most common explanations is that Elisa, who had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, suffered a severe manic episode. This could explain the elevator footage—her erratic movements, her behavior, her apparent fear of something unseen. Some have suggested that she was experiencing paranoia or hallucinations, which might have led her to the rooftop in a state of confusion.

But even if we accept that, it doesn’t explain the logistics of how she got inside the tank. How did she open that heavy lid? And why were her clothes found separately inside the tank? If she was in distress, why wouldn’t she try to get out?

And then, of course, there’s the darker theory—that someone else was involved.

Could Elisa have been murdered? It’s a chilling thought, but some people believe she might have been lured or forced to the rooftop by someone with access to restricted areas. The hotel, with its history of crime and violence, wasn’t exactly the safest place in LA. The fact that there were no security cameras covering the rooftop just makes things even murkier.

Then we have the more out there theories. Some claim the case is supernatural—that Elisa was possessed or influenced by something beyond our understanding. The Cecil Hotel has been linked to so many dark events that people think it’s cursed, or worse. Others have pointed out eerie connections to the movie Dark Water, where a girl drowns in a water tank on a building’s rooftop, eerily similar to Elisa’s fate. Coincidence? Or something stranger?

Of course, there are those who believe the entire case was mishandled—that crucial evidence was overlooked, and the truth was buried beneath official reports that left too many questions unanswered.

So, was this a tragic accident, an overlooked crime, or something more?

In the next part of our episode, we’ll take a closer look at the rational explanations and lingering mysteries surrounding Elisa Lam’s case. We’ll break down the science, the psychology, and the strange details that keep this story alive after more than a decade.

Don’t go anywhere. We’ll be right back.

The Elisa Lam Case – Part 3: Rational Explanations vs. Lingering Mysteries

Every unsolved case eventually meets one of two fates: either it fades into obscurity, buried under the weight of newer mysteries, or it becomes something else entirely—a legend, a story that refuses to die. The Elisa Lam case has firmly planted itself in the second category. And why wouldn’t it? Even with an official explanation, the details remain unsettling, the questions remain unanswered, and that eerie elevator footage still haunts people years later.

But let’s strip away the sensationalism for a moment and look at this through a rational lens. Could Elisa’s death really have been an accident? The coroner’s report ruled out foul play, citing no visible injuries, no signs of struggle, no drugs or alcohol that could have impaired her judgment. The cause of death was listed as “accidental drowning,” which, on paper, might seem like the final word. But it’s never that simple, is it?

For those who believe Elisa was in the midst of a severe manic episode, the theory goes something like this: she may have been in an altered state of mind, experiencing paranoia or hallucinations, which could explain her behavior in the elevator footage. If she genuinely believed someone—or something—was chasing her, it could have driven her to seek refuge in an unlikely place. If she somehow accessed the rooftop, she might have climbed into the water tank thinking it was a hiding spot or even a way to escape. But once inside, she wouldn’t have been able to get out. It’s terrifying to imagine, but not impossible.

Yet, even if we accept this explanation, some details still feel… off. The rooftop was supposed to be locked. The alarm system was never triggered. The tank’s lid—a heavy, industrial cover—was found closed when her body was discovered. If she got in by herself, how did that lid close? It’s the kind of inconsistency that fuels endless debate.

Then there’s the hotel itself. The Cecil Hotel is practically a character in this mystery. Its dark history reads like something out of a horror novel—serial killers, mysterious deaths, suicides, and now, Elisa Lam. The more you dig into the hotel’s past, the harder it is to ignore the eerie pattern. Was it just coincidence that she ended up in that place? Or is there something about the Cecil that draws tragedy to it like a magnet?

And of course, we can’t talk about this case without acknowledging the role the internet has played in keeping it alive. Theories, speculations, even outright conspiracies—the case took on a life of its own. Some internet sleuths believe that crucial details were covered up. Others point to the uncanny similarities to horror movies as proof of something more sinister. Some people just want closure, while others thrive on the mystery, unwilling to accept the simplest explanation when the unknown is so much more intriguing.

At the end of the day, Elisa Lam was a real person—a young woman with dreams, struggles, and a life that was cut tragically short. Whether her death was an accident, a crime, or something more, the fact remains that the world is still talking about her. And maybe, in some way, that’s why this case matters. Because when a story refuses to be forgotten, it forces us to keep searching for the truth.

But we’re not done yet.

In the next section, it’s time for Let’s Talk—where Ben and I will break down the most compelling theories, challenge each other’s perspectives, and maybe even throw in a few unexpected twists. Because this case isn’t just about what happened—it’s about why we care so much.

So stay with us. This next part? It’s important. We’ll be right back.

Let’s Talk

Danny:

Alright, Ben, we just spent a solid chunk of time dissecting the Elisa Lam case, breaking it down from every possible angle. But, I gotta say, I’m still not satisfied. Something about this case just doesn’t sit right with me.

Ben:

You and the entire internet, my friend. But what specifically is messing with you? The elevator footage? The water tank logistics? The whole how-in-the-world-did-this-even-happen element?

Danny:

All of the above! I mean, let’s just talk about that water tank situation for a second. The official report says accidental drowning, right? But explain to me how a young woman, by herself, managed to access a locked rooftop, bypass an alarm system, climb onto a giant industrial water tank, lift a heavy lid, get inside, and then somehow… close the lid?

Ben:

Okay, let’s play devil’s advocate. What if the lid wasn’t closed all the way? Maybe it was open, she fell in, and it got shut later by, I don’t know, gravity? A maintenance worker?

Danny:

Gravity? Ben, we’re talking about a metal lid. Gravity doesn’t just casually shut heavy industrial covers. And if a maintenance worker found it open and then closed it before discovering the body… don’t you think they’d remember that?

Ben:

Okay, fine, I’ll admit—it’s weird. But you know what bugs me even more? The fact that she was originally staying in a shared room, and the other guests complained about her behavior, which got her moved to a private room. That little detail never gets talked about enough. What exactly was she doing that made her roommates feel uncomfortable?

Danny:

See, that’s a great question! We keep focusing on her last moments, but what about the days leading up to them? What if those early warning signs were more telling than we think?

Ben:

Exactly! Because if she was already showing erratic behavior, then maybe that helps explain some of what we saw in the elevator footage. But also… let’s not pretend like the Cecil Hotel was some cozy little bed-and-breakfast. That place was a crime scene disguised as a building!

Danny:

Right?! This is the same hotel where serial killers literally lived. Richard Ramirez, The Night Stalker, was one of its long-term residents. So was Jack Unterweger, another murderer. People literally checked in and never checked out.

Ben:

Makes you wonder, huh? Like, even if we accept the idea that Elisa’s death wasn’t caused by another person… wasn’t the environment itself part of the problem? I mean, staying at the Cecil is like playing real-life survival horror.

Danny:

Bingo. And speaking of horror—let’s talk about that elevator footage again, because the internet has not let this one go. You know the theory that the camera footage was slowed down and possibly edited before being released?

Ben:

Ooooh, conspiracy mode activated! I love it. But yeah, I’ve heard that too—something about missing timestamps, possible frame cuts…

Danny:

Exactly! And that would explain why the elevator doors stayed open for so long. But here’s my problem: If the footage was tampered with, then why? Who benefits from making her actions look stranger than they already were?

Ben:

Maybe it wasn’t about her. Maybe someone else was in that hallway, someone they didn’t want us to see.

Danny:

Now you’re thinking like a true crime podcaster! And let’s not forget the whole Dark Water connection. I mean, it’s eerie, right? A girl with dark hair mysteriously drowns in a water tank, in a building where the residents unknowingly drink contaminated water. Sound familiar?

Ben:

Yeah, but let’s be real—that’s probably just a creepy coincidence. I mean, if we start connecting every horror movie to real life, we’d be locking our doors twice every night.

Danny:

Oh, I already do that. Have you met the world we live in?

Ben:

Fair point. But let me flip this around—what’s your most logical explanation for what happened to Elisa?

Danny:

I think the mental health angle is the most plausible. If she was experiencing a severe manic episode, she could have genuinely been scared, confused, and acting on impulse. But even if that explains her actions, I still can’t explain the how. How did she physically get to the rooftop? That’s the question that keeps me up at night.

Ben:

And that, my friend, is why we’re still talking about this case all these years later. Because even when we try to apply logic, there’s always that one missing piece that doesn’t quite fit.

Danny:

Which brings us to our final question—what do you think happened to Elisa Lam?

Ben:

Yeah, let us know what your theory is. Are you on Team Logical Explanation, or are you convinced something more sinister was at play?

Danny:

And while you think about that, let’s take a step back and look at some of the key words and phrases we used in today’s episode. Because if you’re gonna dive into true crime discussions, you might as well do it with top-tier English vocabulary.

Ben:

Stick around, because Vocabulary in Context is coming up next!

Danny:

Don’t go anywhere. We’ll be right back.

Let’s Learn Vocabulary in Context

Before we dive into vocabulary, let’s clear something up. One of the trickiest things about this case—besides, you know, everything—is that it sits in this weird space between a criminal investigation and a psychological analysis. On one hand, we have the eerie details: the Cecil Hotel’s notorious past, the bizarre elevator footage, and the impossible logistics of Elisa ending up in that water tank. On the other hand, we have mental health factors, which are very real and very powerful. It’s easy to get caught up in the mystery, but it’s just as important to acknowledge that conditions like bipolar disorder can affect perception, decision-making, and behavior in ways that outsiders might not fully understand. That’s why this case is so haunting—because even when we try to explain it logically, something always seems to be missing.

Alright, now that we’ve got that covered, let’s talk about some of the interesting vocabulary and expressions that popped up in our discussion.

One word that came up a lot was “unsettling.” If something is unsettling, it makes you feel uneasy, like something is off but you can’t quite put your finger on it. That elevator footage? Completely unsettling. It’s not outright terrifying, but there’s just something about it that makes your brain go, Nope, I don’t like this. You can use unsettling to describe anything that makes you feel that way—an eerie silence, a strange interaction, or the way your neighbor stares at you through the blinds for no reason.

Then there’s “vanished into thin air.” This phrase is basically a dramatic way to say disappeared completely, without explanation. Elisa Lam vanished into thin air before she was found weeks later. People love using this phrase when something mysteriously disappears—like when your last slice of pizza vanishes into thin air and everyone in the room suddenly has amnesia.

Another good one is “baffled.” If something baffles you, it completely confuses you, like when you try to assemble IKEA furniture and end up with three extra screws and an identity crisis. The police were baffled by how Elisa got to the rooftop, and honestly, so is everyone else.

We also used “perplexing”—which is basically a fancier way of saying baffling. If something is perplexing, it’s confusing in a way that makes you overthink every tiny detail. The whole Elisa Lam case? Perplexing. Trying to figure out why autocorrect insists on changing “ducking” to something else? Also perplexing.

Now let’s talk about “shrouded in mystery.” If something is shrouded in mystery, it means it’s surrounded by secrecy, uncertainty, or things we don’t fully understand. The Elisa Lam case is shrouded in mystery, but so are a lot of things—like how socks just disappear in the laundry, never to be seen again.

A word that really fits this case is “eerily.” If something is eerie, it’s creepy but in a subtle way—it’s not full-blown horror-movie scary, but it still gives you the chills. The way the elevator doors don’t close in that footage? Eerily unnatural. If you ever find yourself in an empty parking lot at night with flickering streetlights? That’s eerily quiet.

We also used the phrase “cold case.” A cold case is an unsolved criminal case that has basically been abandoned due to a lack of evidence. While Elisa Lam’s case isn’t technically classified as a cold case (since they ruled it accidental), a lot of people treat it like one because so many questions remain unanswered.

Then there’s “conspiracy theories.” This one’s fun. A conspiracy theory is basically an alternative explanation to an event—usually one that suggests something secretive or sinister is at play. The idea that the elevator footage was altered? That’s a conspiracy theory. The belief that pigeons are actually government surveillance drones? Also a conspiracy theory—though I’m still keeping my eye on them.

Another great phrase we used is “to play devil’s advocate.” This means to argue against something, even if you don’t necessarily disagree with it, just to explore another point of view. In our discussion, Ben played devil’s advocate by trying to justify how Elisa might have gotten into the water tank on her own. You can use this in daily life whenever you want to challenge an idea without fully committing to it—like when you say, Okay, I love pizza too, but just to play devil’s advocate… what if we tried sushi instead?

And finally, let’s not forget “lingering questions.” If something lingers, it sticks around—so lingering questions are those unresolved doubts that just won’t go away. The Elisa Lam case has plenty of them. But so does life. Like, why do we park in driveways and drive on parkways? Why do “fat chance” and “slim chance” mean the same thing? These are the real mysteries.

So, now you’ve got some solid words and phrases to add to your vocabulary toolkit. Whether you’re discussing true crime, eerie events, or just trying to sound fancy in conversation, these will come in handy. And if you start throwing around words like “perplexing” and “shrouded in mystery,” don’t be surprised if people start looking at you like you’ve got some hidden detective skills.

Alright, that’s it for this section! Up next, we’re wrapping up this episode with some final thoughts. Stick around—we’ll be right back.

Let’s Discuss & Write

Let’s Discuss:

Here are five questions to get you thinking deeper about the Elisa Lam case. Share your thoughts in the comments—do you lean toward logic, mystery, or something in between?

1. The official ruling states that Elisa’s death was an accident. Do you believe this explanation, or do you think there are still too many unanswered questions? Why or why not?
2. If Elisa’s case were to be reopened today with new technology and investigative methods, what aspects of the case do you think should be examined more closely?
3. The Cecil Hotel has a long history of crime and tragedy. Do you believe places can have a certain “energy” that influences what happens there, or is it simply a matter of coincidence and history?
4. The internet played a huge role in keeping this case alive, with amateur detectives and conspiracy theorists investigating every detail. Do you think internet sleuthing helps bring justice, or does it create more misinformation?
5. What do you think truly fascinates people about unsolved mysteries? Is it the fear of the unknown, the need for answers, or something else entirely?

Let’s Write:

Writing Prompt: The Unsolved Mystery That Haunts Me

In a short piece (200-300 words), write about a mystery—real or fictional—that has always fascinated you. This could be an unsolved crime, a strange historical event, a bizarre coincidence, or even something mysterious that happened in your own life.

Directions & Tips:

• Start with an engaging hook. Capture the reader’s attention right away—maybe a chilling detail, a question, or a vivid scene.
• Describe the mystery. What happened? Who was involved? What makes it so intriguing?
• Discuss the theories. What do people believe happened? What do you think?
• Wrap it up with your thoughts. Why does this mystery stick with you? What does it say about how we seek the truth?

Example opening line:

“It happened in the middle of the night—an entire ship, found floating in the ocean, its crew vanished without a trace. No struggle, no bodies, just an abandoned vessel, drifting in silence.”

Once you’ve written your piece, feel free to share it in the comments or reflect on it privately. Who knows? Maybe your mystery will inspire someone else to start searching for answers.

Learn with AI

Danny:

For this final part of the episode, I’d like to bring in someone who knows a thing or two about mysteries, forensic psychology, and the way we, as humans, process the unknown. Meet Dr. Evelyn Carter, a criminal psychologist and expert in behavioral analysis who has worked on numerous cases involving missing persons and unexplained phenomena. Dr. Carter, what’s your take on the Elisa Lam case?

Dr. Evelyn Carter (AI):

Thanks for having me. The Elisa Lam case is a fascinating mix of psychology, crime, and urban mythology, and I think there are a few angles we haven’t fully explored yet.

First, let’s talk about how our brains respond to mysteries like this one. Humans have an inherent discomfort with uncertainty. Our minds are wired to seek patterns, explanations, and closure. This is why the case of Elisa Lam refuses to fade from public discussion—because it defies a satisfying, clear-cut resolution. And when we don’t have all the answers, we start filling in the blanks with speculation, theories, and, in some cases, supernatural explanations.

This leads me to the role of perception—specifically, how we interpret Elisa’s behavior in the infamous elevator footage. To some, she looks afraid, possibly running from something. To others, she seems erratic, even playful. But here’s the key: our interpretation of her actions says more about us than it does about the footage itself. If you go into the video expecting to see something sinister, your brain will find something that seems off. This is the same reason people see faces in clouds or hear whispers in static—it’s called pareidolia, our tendency to impose meaning where there may be none.

Another factor I want to highlight is the way mental health is discussed in true crime narratives. There’s an unfortunate tendency in cases like these for people to either dismiss mental illness as an easy explanation or, on the other end, sensationalize it as if it makes someone inherently mysterious or unstable. The reality is, people with bipolar disorder, like Elisa, can live full, stable lives with proper treatment. But in a severe manic or psychotic episode, perception can become distorted, leading to impulsive or even dangerous decisions. The problem is that we don’t have enough information about her state of mind at the time. We have clues, but no definitive way to know what she was experiencing.

And finally, let’s talk about how the internet can sometimes make solving mysteries harder, not easier. While online investigators can bring fresh eyes to cases, there’s also a serious risk of confirmation bias—people find only the evidence that supports what they already believe. And in Elisa’s case, the online frenzy led to wild accusations, harassment of innocent people, and even manipulated information. This happens a lot in high-profile mysteries: once a case becomes public, it stops belonging to the facts and starts belonging to the narrative people build around it.

So, what’s my conclusion? Well, I think Elisa’s case is likely a tragic combination of mental health struggles, environmental factors, and unfortunate circumstances. That being said, the inconsistencies in the case—how she got to the rooftop, the unanswered questions—are real and unsettling. It’s okay to be fascinated by mystery, but we should also ask ourselves: Are we searching for the truth, or just the story we want to believe?

Outro (Danny):

And that wraps up this episode of Mysteries Revealed on English Plus Podcast! We explored every angle of the Elisa Lam case—from the eerie last footage to the wild theories, rational explanations, and lingering mysteries. But the real question is—what do you think?

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